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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 00:39 
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actually, what you've done is make yourself look like a twat.

right?

what, exactly, have you been right about? i simply see you deciding you know what gregor was thinking when he wrote it, raher than what he says he was thinking.

a classic critic, ramming your interpretation down the throats of the masses, in the face of all logic.

seriously.

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The horrific event he's trying to dance on only heightens the tragedies that are his continuous attempts at writing.


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God I hate Rum and Monkey's guest writers.


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And yes Gregor, myself, unlike everyone else who posted on your journal, who e-mailed you, posted here or otherwise tore away at your dramatic ignorance, have deigned to attack your article because I had a personal axe to grind. Hence why all of your other articles attracted as much ire from me personally (not to say they're any good, but I rarely bother saying anything about it,) and hence the thunderous acclaim you're receiving for this one, with only several dozen people reaching the same conclusion about it. Because there's nothing deeply and dramatically wrong with the last two articles you've posted which could possibly explain my reaction, a reaction you're supposed to have been expecting, and which is the same as 'many' others according to you.


that still makes no sense, and the red is the least intelligible bit.

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he fact that your writing/articles are horrifically poor and unfunny hardly constitutes a personal attack, and I have no idea how my criticising your writing makes you question whether I'm attacking you or your writing


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I just usually can't be bothered to point out how phenomenally poor the guest writers, Gregor included, are.


your first post was constructive, although the work you went into correcting gregor's errors seems to point towards you thinking he was serious, and not that he had merely written a poorly constructed article.

after that, it's all been about how you think he sucks, and how you knew all along he wasn't serious about everything he said, but because he said it, he must be mocking the victims...

it's funny, because i AGREED when you said it was a poor article. it's your personal bullshit that i object to.

and now, you paint yourself as a martyr being attacked because, gasp, you are right.

give it up.

you are pegged as somebody who must be right, at all costs.

you have some deep esteem issues, jason.

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you have some deep esteem issues, jason.
I know Nukelavee. God, you're right. I have to admit it. We all here know it, though I couldn't face it before now. I'll come clean.

All this time, when I've been arguing with pages for you because I'm stubborn and you're not - it wasn't you I was arguing with, it was me. When I insulted Gregor by insulting his writing it revealed my deep personal issues with him. When I called Gregor a twat - no sorry, my mistake.

I mean I should have known. It was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that all of this has been down to my hatred of Gregor when a lot of other people got angry at Gregor because of this article, prompting more than three separate threads expressing disappointment and anger. When I <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/users/_gregor_/22194.html">clearly over interpreted from what Gregor has said</a>, as Jenny pointed out, it was illogical. When I said from the start that Gregor would claim this was a joke, I did so knowing that Gregor would stand by his writing as a serious, anger filled piece, as he has done so. And I forced - through arcane means I wish not to reveal - Stephen, Chem and others to also suggest he'd try to pass it off as satire.

It's always been me I've been battling with, and you've helped me to understand that.

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was that sarcasm?

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Yeah, Jason's basic argument is:

Gregor wrote an angry article which the content Jason took offense to. Gregor is now saying that he missed the point and that it's satire, ie, not his own opinion, when (hi lj!!) it looks like it actually is.

Easy.

By the way, I'm not sure why people are so pissed off about the content anyway. It's just one person's opinion. You know. If it's not somebody that affects your life, who cares? Getting angry at it won't do anything.

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My summary was cooler.

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damn.

hard to argue with that, innit?

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Oh, God, won't somebody think of the children?

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The children are all right here bickering.

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i'm thinking of the children. they're playing GTA and cussing like sailors.

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It's funny when people come into arguments and say STOP ARGUING YOU'RE LIKE CHILDREN!! because it's like they think their opinion matters and people will say okay we'll stop sure ^________^

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its because they're trying to make the others appear childish

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 23:22 
yep.

it's like when somebody says "why can't you be reasonable" and they mean "i'm not gonna be reasonable, so please give in."

oh - jenny - the shirt gets sent, umm, wednesday, once i straighten out my insurance company and get back the extra 3 months premiums they charged me.


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Ben wrote:
Does everyone in here need to take a "grow up" pill or what? Calm down, for crying out loud. Take a deep breath, count to ten.

Remember the tired old Rum and Monkey debate rules: don't start laying into each other. And the tired old rules of criticism: if you have something to say, say it constructively. Thanks.


EDIT. Remember the rule of rhyme, guys, in order of importance:

He's polite
He's right
it's his site

...Relax, goddamnit.

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I'm trying to make everyone seem childish, not the others. Meh.

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"Hey, I think I'll be defensive and try to look better than the others while putting them down again, completely ignoring the spirit of what was just said!"

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Mars, please, <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hs=g6e&hl=en&safe=off&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&q=%22arguing+on+the+internet+is+like+running+in+the+special+olympics%22&btnG=Search&meta=">a couple of people</a> beat you to it. It's appeared on R+M several times, and I think all of them were you. Stop posting that picture.

'Have a Nice Cup...' is still fresh and funny according to my amuserometer.

We seem to have given Sushi a hair trigger and I'd like to keep plugging it. Moses Conspiracy, you're childish.

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Of course I am. I'm sixteen.

Edit: Wait, did you mean for Mani to defend me? Ignore what I said. I am completely offended.


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:3!!!

I had no idea you were even reading this thread. That's awesome stuff.

Also here is something fresh and new:

<img src="http://img.tapuz.co.il/forums/17673325.jpg">

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How offensive.

And please quit acting superior Mani. It's fairly evident how childish this topic has been, pretty much all parties (including myself) included in one way or another :P

Sheesh.

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I'm childish too.

Maturity is way overrated.


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:3!!!

I had no idea you were even reading this thread. That's awesome stuff.


That's funny because I actually hadn't been until the last few posts.


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